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DEMOLITION MAN: A NOSTALGIC LOOK BACK WITH JEFF A.K.A. TRUEKNOWLEDGE!
Remember the first time you saw "Demolition Man"? Jeff, aka True Knowledge, and I sure do! We kick off our new series of movie discussions with a nostalgic trip back to the 90s, starting with this sci-fi action classic available on TUBI. Jeff dives into some hilarious and colorful anecdotes from his teenage years, including his high school adventures and early love for HBO's diverse lineup. Together, we recall our first encounters with "Demolition Man" and set the stage for a fun and engaging review.
From Sylvester Stallone's maverick cop to Wesley Snipes' iconic villain, we dissect the memorable characters and thrilling scenes that make "Demolition Man" unforgettable. We compare Stallone's brute strength to Snipes' slick combat skills and even speculate on how Jean-Claude Van Damme would fare against Stallone's straightforward style. Our conversation spins off into reminiscing about other influential 90s movies and TV shows like "Tulsa King" and "The Fugitive," reflecting on their lasting impact and why they remain fan favorites.
But the laughs don't stop there. We share amusing theories about the film's infamous three seashells, debate Sandra Bullock's diverse roles, and chuckle at some behind-the-scenes dynamics. Later, we wrap up with a lighthearted yet critical look at the film's depiction of a utopian future, its enduring entertainment value, and how it stacks up against other 90s action flicks. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to "Demolition Man," this episode promises a nostalgic and entertaining journey through one of the decade's most iconic films.
Remember the first time you saw "Demolition Man"? Jeff, aka True Knowledge, and I sure do! We kick off our new series of movie discussions with a nostalgic trip back to the 90s, starting with this sci-fi action classic available on TUBI. Jeff dives into some hilarious and colorful anecdotes from his teenage years, including his high school adventures and early love for HBO's diverse lineup. Together, we recall our first encounters with "Demolition Man" and set the stage for a fun and engaging review.
From Sylvester Stallone's maverick cop to Wesley Snipes' iconic villain, we dissect the memorable characters and thrilling scenes that make "Demolition Man" unforgettable. We compare Stallone's brute strength to Snipes' slick combat skills and even speculate on how Jean-Claude Van Damme would fare against Stallone's straightforward style. Our conversation spins off into reminiscing about other influential 90s movies and TV shows like "Tulsa King" and "The Fugitive," reflecting on their lasting impact and why they remain fan favorites.
But the laughs don't stop there. We share amusing theories about the film's infamous three seashells, debate Sandra Bullock's diverse roles, and chuckle at some behind-the-scenes dynamics. Later, we wrap up with a lighthearted yet critical look at the film's depiction of a utopian future, its enduring entertainment value, and how it stacks up against other 90s action flicks. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to "Demolition Man," this episode promises a nostalgic and entertaining journey through one of the decade's most iconic films.
Thank you, the World Of the World, thank you. All right, what's going on? Everybody, welcome to a podcast odyssey. It's been a while, but we are back and we've got Jeff, aka True Knowledge. Some of you may already know Jeff from many previous episodes. Jeff say what's up, say hello. What's up, say hello.
Speaker 2:What's up. You might have seen me in that back alley that one night getting head from some prostitute or whatever. You know, that might have been me too.
Speaker 1:If you were in Florida then you may have seen Jeff doing something crazy. So we're here, we're going to talk about Demolition man, uh. So we're here, we're going to talk about, uh, demolition man. We uh are going to watch a series of movies on a free streaming network called 2b. Uh, just the kind of idea I had you know, for for watching movies. So everybody can watch movies and you don't have to have netflix, hulu, all those other shows. If you download 2b. 2b is 100 free.
Speaker 1:I'm not like trying to sell it to you. It's not any, I don't. I don't get any dividends from this, but, um, it's an easy way for for us to watch a movie and talk about it and then you to turn around and watch it without having to pay anything. So right now it's like on popular movies you can see on 2b. Demolition man is one of those which came out in 1993, which was was. You know, I think I grew up as a kid in the 90s, jeff, you grew up as a kid in the 90s, so some pretty good years, right, you know 1993. I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love the 90s. Man Love it.
Speaker 1:Growing up. You know drinking water out of the hoses in the front yard. You know still playing sports outside.
Speaker 2:Well, for me it's more like you know again, cause I, you know you don't know a lot about my background as a childhood, but I'm sure it wouldn't surprise you that you know, it would probably. It would probably surprise you definitely that I was very athletically gifted. So I I signed away my junior high rights to play junior high sports and I moved up to varsity at age 13. And I joined the varsity basketball team at age 13. So eighth grade, I was on the varsity basketball team.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, it's really cool.
Speaker 2:And that's how I met. And this was, you know, 1997, beginning of it. That's how I met my high school sweetheart. She was a junior captain of the cheerleading team on the cheerleading squad for the basketball team. I met her on the bus and then we ended up being together for almost two years, almost three quarters of her junior year. That summer, and then the whole year after that, her senior year, I went to a senior prom with her as a freshman, which was not a normal thing to happen at my school. It was normal, like a normal thing you know to happen.
Speaker 2:Um, at my school it was normal for, like a guy that was a senior to bring a, you know, a young girl to the prom or whatever, or have like a freshman or senior guy to have a freshman girlfriend. But to have the other way around was sort of different, you know. But, um, I was popular young. So, um, although I mean I definitely drank water from the hose and played with sticks and played with sticks and shit and all that, like you know, and all that shit as a kid, but at the same time I also did like, honestly, from 97 right through year 2000, I did probably some of the hard, most hardcore partying, like hard school, you know, like upstate New York high school, you know varsity blues type, keg party type, type partying in 97.
Speaker 2:In 97 was my freshman year. That's when I really really started like partying and like um experimenting with drugs and um. I got most of my drug experimentation in terms of, like you know, uh, hallucinogenics and like hardcore drugs and all that. I did all that early, so around age 14, 15, I was dropping acid and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:That is. It's pretty hardcore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did more cocaine, probably in like 97 and 98, 99 than I've ever done the whole rest of my life combined.
Speaker 1:Well, that's interesting. I guess we can go back. Cocaine was still popular back in the 90s, man it was very popular, but we're not here to talk about that. You know. Thank you for we. We jumped from that. We went real quick from 93 to 97 and like, like that that's hey, we were talking, we were talking 90s.
Speaker 1:Baby, we were, we were, we were Okay. So back at hand. Demolition man. Do you remember seeing this movie? When's the earliest time you remember seeing this movie? I don't remember seeing it when it first came out. It came out in 93. I was eight years old. How old were you in 93?
Speaker 2:I always watched the movies when they came out on HBO, either with my mom and dad or with my dad or by myself, right, because I had full access to HBO when I was a little kid. From a little kid age on, I always wanted to have my TV in my room.
Speaker 1:You're watching Real Sex 10 and.
Speaker 2:I had HBO. Oh yeah, I started watching Oz on HBO when I was like 12. Right, that was my first HBO series, series odds, like watching it as a 12 year old in my room, you know like I had full access to hbo. So, um, I ever saw devil. I didn't see a lot of these, the movies in the theaters, but when they would come out on hbo whatever you know uh, eight months or a year after the cinematic release, I would usually watch them then. Right, so I would have seen demolition man, probably for the first time. Um, this is if it's popularity and because it was a Stallone film, right, um, you know it was big in the nineties.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a slow film, it was big now Right. Yeah, and he was Wesley, you know like. So in some form or fashion I watched it with my cousins or something, or with my family. I did watch it like and I was very young, so um, I probably, if I remember correctly I think I liked it for the most part. I didn't think it was like the best thing ever, but like the humor worked a little better back then, you know, than it does now.
Speaker 1:So re-watching it, you know, after we're watching it, like there's there's a lot of like little funny stuff. But before we get into any of that stuff in the movie, do you have the, the trailer? You can pull up the trailer so we can now watch with the group. I got the. I got the trailer server. Yeah, all right, cool. So we're gonna, we're gonna play the trailer and for you in the audio world you can just hear it, for you getting to visually see it. Feast your eyes.
Speaker 2:At the end of a century ravaged by violence, a society of perfect order will arise criminals will be frozen and reprogrammed in cryogenic prisons. The prisoners are ice cube their criminal instincts are being reprogrammed as they sleep. Aggression and deviant behavior will be totally eliminated.
Speaker 1:Is a criminal the likes of which you have never seen. In a bad time he was the worst. That's kind of boring huh.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna love running this place. Oh yeah, but in the year 2032.
Speaker 1:This morning, simon Phoenix escaped from this cryo facility.
Speaker 2:We are, quite frankly, not equipped to deal with the situation Amidst a world of peace and calm. We're police officers. We're not trained for this kind of violence.
Speaker 1:How was the fiendish Simon Phoenix apprehended back in the 20th? In the end it took just one man, john Spartan. You mean the demolition man? The conditions of your parole are full reinstatement into the SAPD and immediate assignment to the apprehension of Simon Phoenix, two mortal enemies.
Speaker 2:Just jump in and say hi From another time.
Speaker 1:Pass is over, John. Time for something new and improved.
Speaker 2:Oh hell Will be unleashed on a future that isn't big enough for the both of them. Sylvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 1:Demolition man. Oh my God, terrible the previews for some early 90s actually were.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah yeah. Compared to nowadays, man Trailer's are rough from back then, but they actually wanted John Claude to play the villain of this film at one point. Can you imagine John Claude would have been dope as the villain?
Speaker 1:You think so? I think Wesley Snipes played a really good villain of this film at one point. Can you imagine if John Claude would have been dope as the villain you think so? I think Wesley Snipes played a really good villain.
Speaker 2:No, Wesley was dope. I'm just saying. Could you imagine John Claude as the villain? I've never seen John Claude play a villain. It would have been dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two white males with heavy accents from America.
Speaker 2:Trying to be all crazy and shit whatnot. I imagine john claude would have actually been pretty good at that like acting all crazy and shit, he could have been a good, good bad guy for this movie, for definitely yeah, yeah, he definitely would have. He would have been a box office draw yes, okay.
Speaker 1:So now that we've seen the trailer, I mean it kind of explains the movie right.
Speaker 2:It kind of tells you the whole thing, you know let's be well, I mean, a 10 year old could have wrote the story. It's not very complicated. I mean, you know, uh, you know, I'm saying uh, it's a very, very, very basic concept but if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 1:So what we'll do is, if you haven't seen the movie, we're gonna, I'm gonna explain it to you and then we're gonna talk more about it. So the whole point in the the movie what it's about is a police officer who's kind of like a wait what would you say? Like he's like a maverick, kind of like one of those get it done type cops, but like without.
Speaker 2:They rush the intro so so bad, like so quickly, whatever, not that you don't even really get much of the idea what he's really. You know what I'm saying? He's a demolition man. That's all you need to know.
Speaker 1:The demolition man. That's all you need to know. The demolition man. That's all. That's all there is. So, yeah, the police officer guys is the demolition man. It ain't wesley snipes. Okay, he's not the demolition man. I think the reason why they call him the demolition man is because he's always blowing shit up to get things done like he's, like he uh, the amount of property damage you, you know, and there's no suspense, like you know who's gonna win the fucking movie or whatever, or not, because it's the Demolition man and Sly's the Demolition man.
Speaker 1:So what the fuck I mean. I think in all movies you kind of know who's gonna win, because you know the good guys always win.
Speaker 2:You know there's very few movies where the bad guys win, but point is, what, if, what if I wanted the black guy to win, bro? For like you know, I'm saying like that, being down for the cause. You know I'm saying like, watch blade, fuck the whitey, watch the whitey, watch blade and go watch blade but, uh, okay, again movies about a police officer and a bad guy criminal.
Speaker 1:Um, police officer goes after the bad guy because he has hostages. Well, in the midst of trying to catch him. At the beginning of the movie, the bad guy claims that when he blew up the building trying to capture him, that the police officer killed these hostages in the process process. And because the police officer, you know, kind of went in there without any um orders to go in and took it upon himself to try to capture wesley snipes or simon phoenix without a authorization, I guess you could say, um, they run up putting him in cryo sleep also as well, and not and not just simon phoenix, so they both get put into this cryo sleep for for 70 years.
Speaker 1:When it's parole time for simon phoenix to come out, you know he just breaks out of his contraptions in the future, like just out of nowhere, right, you're like what the hell? How this happened. Future is like made up of, like softies, like there's no violence, doesn't exist anymore. All of a sudden and you know this, this criminal, who is like a psychopath criminal, is just like can't be stopped, right, he's unstoppable. Everybody didn't know how to fight. All of a sudden and they have to come up with a solution Like well, how do you, how do you catch a person like this? They're like well, you know that's we need a police officer from that time to be able to catch a criminal from that time. And that's how this semester still comes in, you know, and he's like just real old school it all comes together very fluently yeah, it does, it does it comes together very fluidly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does, it does it comes together very fluidly. You know it makes sense. It's not bad. The movie has very good action. In my opinion it's got very, very classic 90s action. You know, wouldn't you say so, jeff, don't you think so?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, it is. It is classic 90s action with the explosions and like the guns and all that stuff and the shooting and, like you know, there's some hand-to-hand too. You know what I mean. But it's not some of the best hand-to-hand you know that you've ever seen. It's just your typical sly hand-to-hand. Like. Wesley has more hand-to-hand skills than sly, you know. Like, honestly, more range for sure. You know sly is not. Let's be honest, like you know, sly is rocky like when it comes to him in an action film like this, in his scenes where he has to go hands-on, he's not the most spectacular, exciting-looking fighter.
Speaker 1:He's real bulky with his hand movements, real blocky, he holds his own. He's more effective just walking around with a gun he holds his own.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. His choreography was there. It's fine. He's more effective just walking around with a gun. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And that kind of adds some realism to him, because how many times, you know, you'll see a police officer that's doing karate? You know what I mean. This guy's fighting like old school, like punching, you know.
Speaker 2:Typical of a what do you call it? But if, if you're gonna have a, but if you're gonna have a 90s action film, one-on-one like the big bad guy versus the big, you know that the like badass good guy and it's like sly and wesley snipes, you're expecting like full-on fucking. You know, I'm saying like you know. Like you know, I mean like you're expecting some shit, you know so, uh, it's a good thing john claw wasn't in the movie, bro, or john claw would have fucked up Sly in some of that fight scenes.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure John Claw's blood sport instincts would have kicked in and shit, he would have just beat Sly's ass.
Speaker 1:He's a much better. How do you say it? Fighter, for sure Well.
Speaker 2:John Claw is a trained martial artist.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. So his movement would have just been too much, I think, for Sylvester Stallone, because Sylvester Stallone, again, he did a boxing movie but like I mean, we're talking about real blocky fighting you know what I mean just with the hands. It would have been too much, I guess, yeah, you couldn't do that to.
Speaker 2:All his other action stuff where he's a cop or a good guy or whatever, it's always just him with a gun. He's walking around with a gun. That's the story. He shoots at people. He'll punch somebody here and there or whatever, or throw somebody around or whatever, maybe drop a kick here or there, but that's pretty much his motif. He's never been known as the kind of action hero that's going to go hands-on and wow you with his, his hand to hand skills, like you know, like a, like a John Claude, like a Steven Seagal yeah Right, who, who? Who was the first pick for this food? They wanted Steven Seagal to be the devilish.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I can't believe how huge Steven Seagal was in the 90s. I can't believe I haven't liked his movies in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Those action scenes would have been doper, especially with the hand-to-hand if it would have been him going against Wesley, because I'm not sure where Wesley was at with his training and all that and whatnot back then. But by the time he did Blade he also had put in his time learning martial arts and all that and whatnot. He actually has some really solid fighting skills.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine Steven Seagal playing the lead role for Demolition man?
Speaker 2:It would have been interesting. I could see Steven Seagal as a crazy— it would have been a different kind of villain character than Wesley, it wouldn't have been as loud, you know. It would have been more Steven Seagal, more grounded. More grounded, more serious.
Speaker 1:I think, Less playful. I think so. I think with Stallone and Wesley Snipes I think they made a really good combination, Because Wesley Snipes A lot of the funny stuff that was happening around him. I just like his reactions too, because he doesn't seem like a funny guy, so like the things you know.
Speaker 2:In the Wikipedia it says they had really good chemistry, that they generally got along on set.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:I can see that that's what it says. The guy said that they on set, they had they got, they got along really well and whatnot, and they got on together and whatnot. You know, like they they worked well together. You know, there's a lot, there's a lot of respect there. He said between the two, between the two of each other on set, like there was no, uh, nobody was trying to outshine anybody or whatever, or nobody was bigger than the other person or whatever. It was more of like they both came in equally, like with due respect for each other, right, yeah, you know, and that's that, that was. That was the, the, the vibe, you know, on set, I believe that.
Speaker 1:I mean they seem, you know they're. They're as far as actors, they seem always pretty laid back.
Speaker 2:You know, I've never they're as far as actors, they seem always pretty laid back. You know, I've never seen. Oh, they're professionals, professionals too, professionals that want to do their jobs. You know what I'm saying and, like you know, be good, be good at what they're, at what they do.
Speaker 1:you know and like have their shit be good. You know, I mean he's great movies. I was looking at movies during that time. He did Judge Dredd in 1995. He did.
Speaker 2:Oh, but I mean, he's well known even now in his older years. I just watched a podcast the other day with Starbuck from the Battlestar Galactica redo from the early 2000s, the, uh, the Battlestar Galactica redo from the early two thousands. Um, uh, the girl that was in the Mandalorian season three that played um, you know I'm talking about um, the, the one that played uh, god, uh, I know who you're talking about. Boca, boca, boca time Katie Sackhoff.
Speaker 2:She's a had um, uh, uh, one of the one of the actresses from um, you know, battlestar on the interviewer and she happened to have had like a thing with thought, was sly back in the 90s or whatever.
Speaker 2:Right, just playing like a thing. Uh, this one actress, uh, trisha helper, and she talked about what it was like and she had nothing but like the most wonderful thing to say about sly, about how back, even back then, he was like really super intelligent, like you know, just really, really smart. You know what I mean. Like you know um, really like uh, business savvy. You know what I mean what not, you know like, really, uh, really like uh, really smart with taking care of himself and his routine, things like that and whatnot, and taught her a lot of things you know, like, like you know, and training, taking care of himself. He taught her a lot of training stuff you know, like, uh, you know, with training and whatnot, keep it in shape, um, and just that, he was just like that. You know, people don't, it's, don't, don't surprise, don't, don't, maybe figure, but that he's really just like a really small smart guy, like a brilliant guy, like business-wise and like you know, in general that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1:I mean I believe it. I mean he's done, he's what. I think he's produced a couple of his own movies, right, like the expendables. I think that's some of his projects, isn't it?
Speaker 2:he did really well, I think, with his money, the money he made, he, he hit. He did well with you know. I'm saying, like you know, he wasn't stupid, right, and I believe that he actually, um, uh, had a lot of his own personal control over a lot of that stuff to himself he did. He did some subcontract out to other people, you know, or agents or whatever, not when it came to that stuff. He negotiated a lot of his own contracts, things like that, right, even going back right when he was doing that kind of stuff. Um, now, I'm sure it's probably a guarantee with with him that he represents himself, uh, you know, I mean I'm sure it's probably a guarantee with him that he represents himself. You know, I mean I'm sure he has an agency, you know what I'm saying, but I'm sure it's him that goes in the room and negotiates a contract when he does a movie, right, I mean, supposedly the show he's on right now that he does is pretty good which is that one, the Scorpion King the Tallahassee King or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm just yeah, no, I heard it was pretty good it is a good show.
Speaker 1:You haven't seen it now. Oh man, what's it on? I think you can see it on um is that?
Speaker 2:is it on um? Is it on the same, the same um, the same streaming service as Yellowstone and all that shit.
Speaker 1:It's not called the Tallahassee King, it's called like the Ohio King. What is it?
Speaker 2:Not Ohio, but either way, is it on that same streaming service? Is it the one that has Yellowstone and all that?
Speaker 1:I think so, I think so.
Speaker 2:Are those other spinoff shows they made off of that show?
Speaker 1:You know, I'm already. It's in my head and I have to find out.
Speaker 2:It's Paramount+.
Speaker 1:Paramount+ Tulsa King Tulsa King Yep, I haven't finished watching it, but Tulsa King is a very good show. If anybody asks me about it, I would definitely recommend it.
Speaker 2:Does it say if it's on Paramount Plus?
Speaker 1:Let's see here Hate coughing when I'm streaming Paramount Plus. You're right, paramount Plus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a feeling that they'd had that for some reason, that that show would be over there. They already did Yellowstone and those other two spinoff shows off of it with the older actors.
Speaker 1:How old is Sylvester Stallone?
Speaker 2:He's getting up there. He's just as old, if not older than Kevin Costner. With Yellowstone he's getting up there. I mean he's just as old, if not older than Kevin Costner with Yellowstone.
Speaker 1:Sylvester Stallone is 77 years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's Harrison. He's probably older than Harrison Ford is.
Speaker 1:How old Harrison Ford do you think?
Speaker 2:Probably 74, 72. Maybe 78. He's not 80 yet.
Speaker 1:Harrison Ford is 81 years old.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's 81. I was wrong. Okay, thank you, J-Rat. No, he's in one of those spinoffs. Isn't he in one of those Yellowstone spinoff series? Isn't he one of the major? Isn't he in one of them? They have two spinoff series. Isn't he one of them? They have two spinoff TV shows.
Speaker 1:They made off of Yellowstone.
Speaker 2:Isn't he the main actor on one of those two spinoff series from?
Speaker 1:Yellowstone. We're going to find out right now. Oh.
Speaker 2:I know, sam Ellis. Yeah, it's going to be 1923. Yeah, isn't he in it?
Speaker 1:Harrison Ford is in 1923.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, the other one, I think Sam Elliott is in it from Tombstone, okay, from Roadhouse. You know Sam Elliott that always talks like a cowboy. He has that draw, sam Elliott. Yes, I know.
Speaker 1:Sam Elliott. Yes, I know Sam Elliott, Of course. Who doesn't know Sam Elliott? He's a dude. I just know him from what's it called?
Speaker 2:The Big Lebowski, the Big Lebowski I was thinking about the Big Lebowski the other day. You know I love Julianne Moore. I think I told you that before. I love Julianne Moore still, but always been told you that before. I love Julianne Moore. She's always been going back to when I was a kid. I had a crush on her back in the 90s. She's always been one of my favorite actresses. Julianne Moore yeah, I always have had a thing for redheads. My first girlfriend was a redhead that I lost my virginity to, and so julianne moore just like you know, like hit, it's always been perfect for me. I loved her big lebowski and she was so good in boogie nights yeah, she was good in in those shows or those movies.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry a lot of good shit came out in 93. Uh, as family values came out that year, that's a really good movie.
Speaker 1:I love that movie, family values was the second installment in 93ues came out that year. That's a really good movie. I love that movie. Anna's Family Values was the second installment in 93?
Speaker 2:It came out in 93. I love that movie. That's the best Anna's Family movie out of those movies I think Teenage Mutant, ninja, turtles, 3. The Pelican Brief right, that was a big. It wasn't huge box office wise, but it was a big like successful film with for julia, julia, roberts, um. And then, uh, the crying game came out that year pool runnings, scent of a woman, um, rising sun, dave. That was a pretty solid movie. Brown Hog Day with Bill Murray, that's a classic. I like that movie yeah, free.
Speaker 2:Willy, yeah, a Few Good Men, that was a really good movie. A Few Good Men, that's a good fucking movie. Cliffhanger I think Sly was in that one too. Cliffhanger Aladdin In the Line of Fire that's another great one. Mcclean eastwood really good one, a decent proposal. This is doubt fire sleepless in seattle. The firm I can't remember the firm. What was the firm about?
Speaker 1:wayne's world too.
Speaker 2:That was uh with tom cruise oh, that's also with tom cruise, not Not just a few good men. He was in the Firm too, mm-hmm. So he did two lawyer movies in the same year.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, tom Cruise was a hot commodity, holy shit.
Speaker 2:That's crazy to do two big lawyer movies in the same year and the Fugitive came out that year. I know we both know what's up with the Fugitive Fire in the sky. Good, good side, drastic park was was the top top box office movie that year. Really drastic park it. They did 357 million.
Speaker 1:Uh, worldwide gross and there is some a lot of good movies that came out in.
Speaker 2:The Fugitive. The Fugitive is maybe one of the best, maybe one of the best like suspense. You know Carlitos Wayne. You know the Fugitive is a classic, bro. Like a classic classic. I did not kill my wife. You can pick it up tomorrow and watch it, bro, and you'd be like this is dope I, I love the fugitive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, I'm a big fan of harrison ford, I think I've watched.
Speaker 2:That was that was that. That was peak harrison ford and toby lee jones was peak did you ever see patriot games? Oh, of course I have. Patriot Games is great, but Tommy Lee Jones was peak in that movie. Bro Peak, air Force One, yep the Fugitive is.
Speaker 1:Get off my plane.
Speaker 2:My favorite one other than the Fugitive, is the one oh God, the last movie he made where he played that Jack Ryan character Clear and Present Danger, clear and Present Danger.
Speaker 1:Good movie. I love that movie. Clear and Present Danger. That's the one where he is like protecting right or he's like some type of officer.
Speaker 2:Yep, he's the only guy that knows the secrets and everything and whatnot of the government. He has to go out in the field and shit and whatnot and all that, even though he's just an analyst and all that. And William Defoe was in it. William Defoe was really good in everything.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't remember this movie. I would have to rewatch this one.
Speaker 2:That was an intriguing fucking movie, bro. You want to talk about intrigue and like building intrigue, depending on, like the acolyte Bro, the Fugitive. The Fugitive is just like pure adrenaline and like pure fucking, like high stakes, you know, like the whole fucking time, like you know suspense constantly.
Speaker 1:Coneheads came out in 93. Robin Hood Men in Tights.
Speaker 2:Hocus Pocus, dave. Yep, I mentioned that Carlito's Way is one of Pacino's weaker movies.
Speaker 1:But it's such a good movie, though I liked Carlito's Way.
Speaker 2:Wade's World 2 was okay. It wasn't as good as 1. Alive oh Alive came out that year. Alive is a pretty fucking deep movie, bro, liked carly's world. Wayne's world too was okay. It wasn't as good as one. Um, uh, alive oh alive came out. That you're alive is a pretty fucking deep movie, bro, with the plane crash where they actually eat other people and shit, whatnot. That shit is deep. Um, robin hood, men in tights. It's a funny movie. Free willy sister, act two oh yeah, you know you watched that shit. I did.
Speaker 1:Sister Act. Yeah, I watched Sister Act, I've seen that one, the Sandlot.
Speaker 2:That's a classic, the Age of Innocence. I don't even remember watching that, but it sounds like it's probably got lots of nudity and sex in it and shit. The Secret Garden that sounds interesting. I remember the Secret Garden as a kid. Motherhood got lots, got lots of nudity and sex in it and shit. Hell yeah, uh, the secret garden that sounds interesting.
Speaker 1:The secret I remember the secret garden as a kid well, I watched a lot of movies.
Speaker 2:I watched a lot of the movies that came out from this list. I've watched a lot of them. Yeah, oh shit, unforgiven. Unforgiven came out in 1993. Jay rent. Yeah, that was like the holy fuck. I think that was the number one movie for that year bro.
Speaker 2:Well, well, yeah, oscar wise, not box office wise. It only did 100 million in the box office, but still, uh, dude the unforgiven like brought back westerns it made. It made westerns like cool again to where people wanted to make them like heavily again and whatnot. It brought this one back too back then I remember.
Speaker 1:Are you sure it wasn't gettysburg?
Speaker 2:no, it was, it was, it was it brought clip. It brought clip back like it did, like where he was at in his career it really rejuvenated. If you look, if you look at his his career track, he really wasn't doing that much really like you know, like he was doing stuff but he wasn't killing it right. You know, in like the early 90s, late 80s, he kind of tapered off. So when he did the line of fire right, which is a solid movie, and then when he did fucking do unforgiving is like it's like a masterpiece, but he did that. That shit was this. I think it won the Academy Award that year for best picture?
Speaker 1:yep, it did, I saw. It was, I think, the first things I saw I.
Speaker 2:I think he even got nominated, or even might have won the, the academy award for best actor. I think too absolutely.
Speaker 1:Were you able to um download more clips to demolition men did you find?
Speaker 2:any.
Speaker 1:Were you able to find any other clips to Demolition man, or just the trailer?
Speaker 2:I found a scene.
Speaker 1:Let's watch it. You got a little off topic.
Speaker 2:No, I mean the whole thing is If you're going to talk about this stuff and all that and what not you know and fill a show and lump in these things. This is interesting for people. This is actually pretty entertaining, I'd imagine.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:You're right, oh wait.
Speaker 2:I like this part. We're throwing out a lot at a time. You know what I'm saying. But if anybody's in the same age range as us or near that, you know like they're going to get where we're at talking about these films and hearing them. You know for the again for the first time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or even just a little bit older than where we're at 93 was a good year for movies show and let's figure out. Do you want to pick the movie? We're still. Yeah, I'll pick one, okay I'll pick it, okay, rudy. Rudy came out that year too in 93 yeah, rudy came in 93 yep coneheads came out that year. Yeah you mentioned the pelican brief already, right?
Speaker 2:yep, that's I know that movie did well at the oscars too I think I thinking, for Bobby Fischer was actually another good movie. That's why I remember I think Julia Roberts actually got nominated and won an Oscar for the Pelican Brief. That was actually like a spy, like you know, secret agent kind of movie.
Speaker 1:Man, it makes you want to go back and watch some of these, right.
Speaker 2:Like you mentioned, Fire in the Sky, that's a good movie. Oh yeah, Untamed Heart with Marissa Tomei and Christian Slater, that's a cute love story. I don't remember that one. That's a cute, it's a cute. It's a cute like romantic comedy kind of film.
Speaker 1:It's probably why I'm not like into those type of movies.
Speaker 2:It's what Marissa Tomei was like, was so hot off of Michael Zambini.
Speaker 1:I see, let's watch that clip, let's pull it up. Tombstone bitch.
Speaker 2:It came out in 93. Did it really, I feel like we're just naming a bunch of movies. Yes, tombstone did the piano, which I cannot remember. I watched it. I cannot remember it, but I know that killed it at the Academy too, at the awards the Remains of the Day, the Remains of the Day Clint Eastwood was in that too with Meryl Streep. That did well at the Academy. Dan 93 had some good movies. Body of Evidence, the Distinguished Gentleman. Army of Darkness. Army of Darkness, grumpy Old Men, classic.
Speaker 1:Grumpy Old Men.
Speaker 2:Robocop 3. Look who's Talking Now. They watched a lot of these movies Leprechaun.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Dazed and Confused. Oh shit, that's a classic that is wild yo 93 was killing it with movies Malcolm X, beyond the.
Speaker 1:Law I don't remember, beyond the Law was killing it with movies Malcolm X, beyond the Law I don't remember, beyond the Law, cyborg Hot Shots.
Speaker 2:I remember Hot Shots. Yeah, hot Shots, that was a good one, that was really funny. Hot Shots 2 was dope too, those were funny Dude who knew that?
Speaker 1:93 was such a fucking like uh treasure trove of good movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you mentioned falling down already, right? No, I didn't mention falling down. Falling down about that year too. Yeah, michael douglas. Oh my god, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Speaker 2:What the fuck was going on in 1993, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's pretty rowdy. Now I'm searching through more.
Speaker 2:You could throw a rock into the abyss and hit a television with a good movie on it back in 93.
Speaker 1:No, shit, I think you mentioned Rookie of the Year too. Right, you said Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't mention Rookie of the Year, no, but I mean there's a lot of movies I didn't even mention just because they were kind of smaller movies, but they were ones that you don't forget them, mrs Doubtfire. Mrs Doubtfire, yeah, obviously that was a Robin Williams classic, one of his best roles.
Speaker 1:Look who's talking now. Homeward Bound.
Speaker 2:We're going to have to look at the Oscars from that year too you got to pull that up, or I'll pull it up, or whatever so we can actually see who won what that year with all these fucking movies. I want to know who won the Oscar out of all this shit, out of these movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit's pretty rowdy. I'm still looking at all of them.
Speaker 2:I know Demolition didn't win any Oscars.
Speaker 1:No it did not win any? No, it did not, but nonetheless it's a. To me it remains a classic because you can oh shit, dude, it came up immediately.
Speaker 2:When I put Oscars in Google in the search bar, 1993 came up first, oh really. Then 94, then 92, then 91, then 96, then 2024, then 2023. Oscars 1993. I wonder why it went to 93, because look at that list.
Speaker 1:A shitload of movies.
Speaker 2:93 was the Treasure Trove. Man didn't make it in there, the 65th Academy Awards 1993. Oh, wait a minute. Oh no, micah Zavini came out in 93, 93 too, because Marissa Tomei won Supporting Actress that year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's a great actress.
Speaker 2:So she had a big year because she had that other movie too, with Christian Slater. That was actually somewhat successful Untamed Heart or whatever. That I've seen a bunch of times. I really liked it. When I was a kid it was one of the ones I recorded on VHS so I could watch it over and over. Which one is that one? Mike Gazzavini, untamed Heart, the other. There's a movie that she made, the one you didn't see, all right.
Speaker 2:Actor in a leading role 93, al Pacino, son of a Woman Robert Downey Jr was nominated for Chaplin, which you never saw. Cleese, unforgiven. Stephen Ray, the Crying Game. And then Denzel Malcolm X Wow, winner. Al Pacino, winner, al Pacino.
Speaker 2:I didn't see Son of a Woman on that list. I didn't see a son of a woman on that list. I didn't either. Maybe it's because it came out late 92 and it was considered for the Oscars in 93 or something like that. You know what I'm saying. Wow Could have been like that. Actor in a supporting role winner. Gene Hackman, unforgiven. Gene Unforgiven killed it that night. Nominees Jay Davidson, crying Game. Jack Nicholson A Few Good Men, al Pacino, glenn Gary, glenn Ross I fly about that too. That's a really good movie. I didn't see that on that list. Either that's a good movie too. That's a good lawyer movie, or like a classic old school movie based off a play, david Raymer, mr Saturday Night actress in the leading role, emma Thompson, howard's End, which I saw on the list but I can't remember. I watched it back in the day but I can't remember what it's about Nominees.
Speaker 1:Aladdin came out that year as well.
Speaker 2:Michelle Pfeiffer was nominated for Love Field. Susan Sarandon for Lorenzo's Oil Address to the supporting role, marissa Tobey for Michael Zavitti. Let's see A River Runs Through. It was up that year. Last of the Mohicans Because it won Cinematography Wow. Last of the Mohicans was in the 93 Oscars. Best Sound Mixing no shit. Last of the Weekends is a really good movie. Costas Design, brad Stoker's Dracula was in this Oscars. Why weren't these movies on that list? I don't know, I'm not sure. Directing winner Unforgiven Clint Eastwood. Oh, that's what it was. That was Clint Eastwood's first directorial debut, not directing the debut. This was his first directing, I believe, of any film where he was acclaimed for his directing Right. I think he directed before, but he'd never actually been acclaimed or considered a really good director until he won the Oscar for Unforgiven.
Speaker 1:Let's see how old is Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 2:Oh God, shit. He's in his 90s, I think.
Speaker 1:Can he still walk? You think, Can he still. Think Can he still?
Speaker 2:walk. You think, can he still? What, can he still walk? You think, yeah, he walks, he still works. I think what? Um, I don't think he's retired. I mean Best picture winner, unforgiven nominees, crying game, a few good men Howard's End. Instead A Few Good Men Howard's End. And Son of a Woman? Obviously Howard's End. Whatever it was about must have been really good.
Speaker 1:What is this? Clint Eastwood, former mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2:I think I heard about that before.
Speaker 1:He is 94 years old, yep.
Speaker 2:He's still active. He's still directing. He looks old as dirt dude. He's still directing. I think he even acted in one of his most recent films that he directed, like last year he acted in it again 94 years old dude. You just wake up and you're like fuck, Dude 93 had so many good movies that there were so many fucking actors and actresses that did not get nominated in any of these categories. That should have gotten nominated, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, there's just so much competition, right.
Speaker 2:The writing screenplay written directly for the screen. Unforgiven was nominated, but the crying game one. I can't remember the crying game either. I think I only watched a little bits and pieces of it, but that's the one where at the end, like, like, like, there's like a transgender chick or whatever that shows her penis or some shit right at the end. That's what it's known for, the crying game. I don't remember that, Like, right at the end there's this female character and she shows her penis right at the end.
Speaker 2:I ain't watching it or some shit. That's what it's known for the Crying Game.
Speaker 1:The Crying Game that is making me cry right now. Hey, let's put on that clip.
Speaker 2:You play it, You're in control. Let's put on that clip. You play it, bro, You're in control. Master.
Speaker 1:Let's do it.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Any new inforama on Simon Phoenix? There is nothing. Lenina Huxley.
Speaker 2:Where's your John Spark? Oh, he went to the bathroom. I guess he got all thought out. Yo, Sandra Bullock looks so fucking hot. Sir, I formally convey my presence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was very attractive in this movie, but she was younger though. We are not used to physical contact greetings Charms. Look, I don't know if you guys know, but you're out of toilet paper. Paper. Did you say toilet paper? That shit is so stupid they used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20s bro, bro, bro.
Speaker 2:Why would he actually have to come out and tell her that? I mean, why would that be necessary to actually tell her that in real life?
Speaker 1:I guess because he didn't know who else to tell Sandra Bullock in the but he's being all public about it. Oscar in the comments said that Sandra Bullock in the net was the best.
Speaker 2:Dude, this is young looking Sandra Bullock. She looks fire bro.
Speaker 1:I'm going to look up when the net came out.
Speaker 2:She looks fire. Yeah, she was not so good. Then she's totally fuckable.
Speaker 1:They used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20s.
Speaker 2:I'm happy that you're happy, but the place where you're supposed to have the toilet paper, you got this little shelf with three seashells on it.
Speaker 1:He doesn't know how to use the three seashells. This is loud.
Speaker 2:I can see how that could be confusing. I don't believe it Is that you Spartan?
Speaker 1:No, yeah the net.
Speaker 2:I'd be like. I'd be like bro, I still want my ass. Is somebody going to give me a rag? Is somebody going to give me a rag or something? My God, I remember when you were a snot-nosed rookie pilot.
Speaker 1:They finally grounded me Shit. You're a damn good pilot, you are fined two credits for a violation of the level. Yeah, she was miscongeniality. They seem to be friends, yet he speaks to them in the most profane manner. Well, if you had read my study, you would know that this is how insecure? Heterosexual males used to bond.
Speaker 2:She's pretty in general, she's still pretty. Thanks a lot, you shit.
Speaker 1:Murder, death kill. Murder, death kill. Murder, death kill.
Speaker 2:So much for the seashells. See you in a few minutes.
Speaker 1:He's still going to write his ass in those papers.
Speaker 2:It's interesting. I mean, look, I told you earlier the movie's and it's really cheesy at times, fucking stupid at times, or not Some parts of it. To me it is a classic, but at times it's only good because of how bad it is.
Speaker 1:You see, but I don't think it's bad, I think it's a.
Speaker 2:Again, watching it from the lens of 2024 to 1993. Watching it. You know I'm saying passenger 50.
Speaker 1:Who's oscar? Who's talking about passenger 57? What? Which one is that one? I don't even remember passenger 57 was he was in that one, was he?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think that was in 92 and benjamin pratt was in that one, was he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that was in 92. And Benjamin Pratt was in Miss Congeniality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was, and Miss Congeniality too.
Speaker 1:And Miss Congeniality too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean she was in that one. I like those. I had those on VHS too. You had Miss Congeniality on VHS vhs yeah, I actually when I was younger and I used to, I used to actually like to watch more movies and tv before I got the traumatic brain injury and that I used to. I've always liked uh, like, uh, romantic comedies and stuff like that and whatnot, you know. You know I like female stuff. Like you, I've been to female bands and stuff and all that I know you're into females.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I like those movies. I thought they were really good. They were funny, entertaining, watchable, yeah, okay Now, Demolition man is a classic. Now here's my question to you JR2000. Do you think Sly Salome banged Sandra Bullock during the filming of the movie?
Speaker 1:Do I think Mr Salome banged Sandra Bullock? Yeah, because I think he did. You think so?
Speaker 2:Fuck, yeah, it's Sly dude, murder, death, kill. You know that he not that shit out behind behind the scenes on the set, you know hanging out offset and shit and whatnot well, she's 59 and he's probably, so that means, if he's 77, she's not as young in this movie as she looks in this movie.
Speaker 1:He's 59. She's 59 and he's 77. So that means that he's 18 years older than her.
Speaker 2:So when he did that movie. But it only matters in the context of how old was she back then in 93, compared to him then.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm saying. So if you go back and she's 59 and you go back 20, what is it? How many years? That's 10, that's 20 years, 20, 21 years.
Speaker 2:So you take away 29, that's 38. So she was 38 and he was 50-something. She was 38?.
Speaker 1:He might have Wait a minute wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:She was 38 and 93 in this movie. We Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. She was 38 and 93 in this movie. We're skipping some time here. You know what? No, we didn't take into consideration that this is 93. From 2024 to 93 is in 21 years. Oh yeah, that's 31.
Speaker 1:It's 31 years, 31 years yeah.
Speaker 2:So she was 28 and Sylvester was in his 40s, which is perfectly back then, and even nowadays that's perfectly nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:Selma, and Selma till dawn is better. That's till dawn, selma Hayek, I mean. I mean you can't compare the two. I mean first of all yeah, they look like.
Speaker 2:they're not even similar in how they look, or whatever. Sabahayek has some of the best kits at no demand. But seriously though, she was 28 and Sly was in his 40s, so that's not that big of an age gap of a big deal, no.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. But I don't think they smashed. No, you never know. I don't think Sandra Bullock looks like a lady. She don't look like she's. I bet she gets down. You think she's a freak, Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 2:Well, you spend time with people on set and whatnot. These film productions take a long time. They used to take even longer back then, right, because they didn't have the CGI and the digital stuff, the digital abilities and what not with the tech you know, back then, is she still married to this one weirdo looking guy, jesse James? I don't pay attention, I wouldn't remember. No, she's not with him anymore.
Speaker 1:They've split up oh, yeah, since 2005 to 2010.
Speaker 2:I think he cheated on her or some shit like that she was getting cheated on by or some shit like that.
Speaker 1:She was getting cheated on by that rock star. It was like a big public thing yeah. She looks like she's so plain, jane she was really good in that movie with Ryan Reynolds, Sandra Bullock she looks disgusted.
Speaker 2:If she were to give you a handjob, she'd be disgusted. She'd be like, ah, just hurry up. Uh. Nah, bro, all chicks fucking have a little freak in them. Um, dude, look at the fucking look at, look at the gun selection in the fucking museum, museum scene.
Speaker 2:Right, when, fucking, uh, when wesley goes to get the guns, he's a gun, he goes to the museum, bro, they've got guns laid out in the museum in such variety and size and shit that it's like jimmy c commando with arnold, where he goes to get guns from like from like the gun shop, he breaks it. And you see that scene where he's just like it's all those walls and fucking machine guns and shit, whatnot. Your little kid like, your little penis like, starts to get erect and shit and whatnot. When you're watching it you're like, oh my God, fucking, this is awesome. You know what I'm saying. And he's grabbing guns and shit and whatnot. He's got like a big rack, he's got a big fucking like a big, like cart to stack with him and shit and whatnot. That scene was fucking memorable to. That's what it was like, bro. In the museum, every fucking gun you could possibly want is there, right? It's like I'm thinking to myself, why would the museum, why would you need to have all those guns and like that many of them?
Speaker 1:because it's a museum, gotta have all the. You know the different, uh, the variety. Oscar said is that movie a fallout type movie? What movie are you talking about? Demolition man? It's definitely not like a fallout type movie there is no fallout movie I don't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:He's so weird, oscar, you're so weird I don't know how does, how did uh, how did sly on be able to un-cryo so quickly and jump right into the action and shit and whatnot? Wouldn't you think there'd be a little bit of a thawing out process where you need some time to reintegrate yourself back into being fucking alive and active and non-cryo again?
Speaker 1:They did a little laser precision to thaw him out. I don't know why are you bringing up the Fallout show for for oscar? I'm curious are you trying to compare the fallout show to to demolition man? Because there's no comparison. They're like nowhere near the same. Have you seen the demolition man?
Speaker 2:pretty, pretty poor. Uh, commercial placements by um, by tubi. You think so. On this I'll be honest with you. They, they went to commercial on me right at the precipice of like action scenes and shit, whatnot oscar, you have not seen demololition man.
Speaker 1:I am shocked. It's Okay. Can you put back the? No, the trailer is so horrible. If you were to see the, trailer you wouldn't, because Oscar said he hasn't seen Demolition man.
Speaker 2:He's as old as I am Watching that trailer is not going to change anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, watching that trailer.
Speaker 2:The trailer doesn't do any justice watching any trailer from that era, bro, doesn't help you with anything.
Speaker 1:Oscar. So I'm going to tell you, right now I'm doing this thing where I'm picking movies to watch from Tubi because they're free movies, which means anybody can watch them. If I were to give this movie a grade, I would say based on nostalgia. It's a. It's five out of five. It's a typical nineties action movie but it's got comedy in it, it's funny and if you like Sandra Bullock, like the way he's made it seem like you do, then you'll like this movie. You know, cheap it's a good movie.
Speaker 2:It's too. It's very funny. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1:I like it when I like it when cedric bullock says, uh, you really licked his ass, or whatever you know yeah, because, uh, okay, so in the in the movie like there's no crime, oscar, there, there's no crime, crimes already gone with. There's no people can't cuss in the future. They give you tickets for cussing and the the old phrases you can't smoke, you can't smoke cigarettes, it's illegal. Now, anything that's bad for you is illegal. Uh, but like the phrases you can't have sex.
Speaker 2:You can't have penetrative sex anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have some type of cyber sex. It's kind of funny. Anyway, there are scenes where she tries to, I guess, bond, and when she's talking to Sylvester Stallone after he gets into a fight, she's like man, he looks like he's finally you, finally he's matched his meat, you really licked his ass. And he's like having to correct her. Like every time she says something, he's like that's met his match and kicked his ass.
Speaker 2:If I was flying that spot I would have been like, yeah, I would lick your ass Later on Taco Bell.
Speaker 1:Oscar, it only sounds dumb because you're dumb.
Speaker 2:Yo, I would totally lick 93's devilish man, Sandra Bullock. I would lick her asshole Definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of gentlemen on that list that would do it now and I would. Probably I would now and back then. But uh, oh, there's another part where she tries to you know, um, like bond, and she's like looks like there's a new shepherd in town, he's like it's sheriff. Yeah, I bet you would, oscar, I, I bet you would, even if they're gonna have sex.
Speaker 2:She asked if they, if he wants to have sex and sly's like, oh yeah, oh yeah. He's like or whatever. He's like now me, yeah, okay, he's like oh, yeah, or whatever you know I'm like yeah, okay baby. Or whatever you know I'm like yeah, okay, baby, perfect.
Speaker 1:I know, could you imagine if that was a scenario?
Speaker 2:She's about to get some and then all of a sudden she busts out the headsets and shit and whatnot. You know it's all stupid. That shit was stupid. She busts out the Oculus they then slice, eat rat burgers.
Speaker 2:later on he's like this is the best forever of my life yeah, because they had that stupid ass food and because they had that stupid part of the movie where they added in the subterranean people that like were rebels and shit whatnot so, oh so we, you know, stop before we go into that, because that was actually funny.
Speaker 1:So check this out, there's all. There's only one restaurant that exists right. And they're like, uh, they're going to celebrate. And he's like, you know, we should get together, we should go hear music and dance, we'll see you at the Taco Bell. And he's like Taco Bell. And she goes through the history of telling him like, yeah, during the wars, the only franchise to ever survive Slides light.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1:They go to like a really fancy Taco Bell. It's pretty funny and they, you know they little pieces of food.
Speaker 2:It doesn't even make any sense. Why would Taco Bell be the only fucking restaurant left, or whatever? But the subterranean rebel people are fucking great bro.
Speaker 1:Subterranean rebel sounds like vault dwellers. It's.
Speaker 2:What's the name? Dennis Leary, lead them and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the burger part was pretty hilarious. He's like oh man, this is a great burger. She's like do you see any cows down here?
Speaker 2:Dennis Leary's like we're not terrorists. I just want to eat steaks and shit and fucking. I like salt, I like fucking. You know what I'm saying? Guns and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like salt. I want to be able to fucking eat potato chips.
Speaker 2:I want to eat meat, motherfucker, and be dirty. I don't want to be clean all the time. I like showering. They're all dirty down there and shit.
Speaker 1:They've all got some black grime on their face and shit, like all stereotypical. You know. Yeah, that was, um, that was a funny scene. That whole scene was funny. I mean the again the action between him and sylvester stallone is like the, the whole action of it, but everything else is like like just comedic. It's meant to be funny. Now that I think about it. It's meant to be funny because it's so unrealistic of the future, of like how soft everything is it is a lot of.
Speaker 2:It's supposed to be humorous.
Speaker 1:Yes yeah, it's like borderline comedy.
Speaker 2:Oh, and when they were in the car, you remember, they're like oh, I love this song when, when, when, flies with benjamin bratt and shit what not, down in the, in the underground and all that and everything, and then that, and then like, and then, um, and then, and then fucking, uh, um, benjamin bratt comes out as a rebel. Like 20 minutes later he's all rumbled out and shit, whatnot. He's like changed his fucking outfit. Now he's all a rebel. Oh, he's all rebeled out and shit and whatnot. He's like changed his fucking outfit. Now he's all a rebel. Oh yeah, he wiped some black smut on his face and shit and whatnot. He's all happy. He's like all rebeled out. That was dope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he ate a rat burger and got a blowjob for the first time in his life. He was like yo, I'm down for the cause. I'm down for the cause, I'm going to rebel, bro. Fuck them seashells, fuck Taco Bell yeah, dude, that's all great, all of those can you imagine getting a blowjob when all you've ever done is that stupid fucking headgear shit? I'd throw that headgear in the garbage after that shit yeah, that was all silly.
Speaker 1:I mean it was. It was just for the, the comedic part of it, you know the yo.
Speaker 2:If, if, if you really stuck it to sandra in the movie, like in that, like hypothetically, you gave her some good d, some real d in real life, she'd'd be fucking blown away bro.
Speaker 1:I think we've established, I think you've established and I think my chat has established that Sandra Bullock in 93 would have been tier grade A real estate.
Speaker 2:Grade A real estate? Yes, most definitely. Who real estate? Oh, great, great great real estate?
Speaker 1:yes, most definitely. No, my who. Was there any other females in that movie? I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember I seen any other females I, I will tell you one thing I forgot to mention this one joke from the episode three last night. Right, they're talking about the thread or whatever. The, the, the, you know, the lesbian witches, or whatever. The thread or whatever, instead of the force. Yeah, it made me think of the only thread I could think of like in my in my life to relate was like this one time when I was a little younger, a little more wilder, I, I fucked this chick or whatever, whatnot. When I was fucked up, like uh, that was on the period out of period, and she was actually kind of surprised I wanted to hit that shit over there period period. So I was like just to fucking let her know where I was at, how I was going to get down, I pulled that fucking tampon out with my teeth.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 1:God damn it.
Speaker 2:With my teeth, bro. I grabbed it up and fucking tossed it aside. She's all surprised I wanted the banger when she was on her period. I'm like, oh yeah, we'll check this out. Just to make it clear how, like what do they know I am by this whole thing.
Speaker 1:I'm going to show you how I'm going to show you how committed I am to this.
Speaker 2:I was younger. Pretty fucked up, you know so. But yeah, I definitely did it. You know it was a true knowledge moment, something only I would do. I definitely this is not a joke I definitely, with my teeth, got right up in there, grabbed that fucking string and pulled it right out and then, like, pulled back and, like you know, thrown it to the side, possibly the side, and then I got my headset. And then I got my headset, got her headset and we had devilish and bad sex.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, you know what? I did not see that coming from that story. I don't know why I didn't.
Speaker 2:I should have you imagine my mind, how my mind works, that when I'm watching the acolyte and like that seat happens, that's what I connect to.
Speaker 1:You know the thread man, you never cease to amaze me hey, comment session.
Speaker 2:How many guys out there can say you ever done that before?
Speaker 1:I doubt it. I'm not going to get any responses on that one. I'm still waiting for the surprise faces In the this is no joke.
Speaker 2:I did that shit. I don't say things for no reason. It's not a shtick.
Speaker 1:Oscar said would she survive a horror movie? Though? Are you talking about Sandra Bullock? She's been in the horror movies before. Yeah, she's been in the latest one. That was on Netflix too. What's it called?
Speaker 2:Sandra Bullock's in a lot of movies.
Speaker 1:She is in a lot of movies. Yeah, she would definitely survive.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if she's done straight horror, but she's done some supernatural and stuff like that, so she's done some supernatural, mystical, you know, wasn't she in?
Speaker 1:oh, bird box, that's what it is. She was in bird box. Yeah, she survived that, but she was also in um wait bird box. I'm trying, I'm getting that confused now.
Speaker 2:I love how they end the movie with. Fly says how, how do those three seashells work? Are you fucking kidding me, bro? Come on.
Speaker 1:I wish we could find a YouTube video on how that works.
Speaker 2:The three seashells I don't think there is any actual. It's all bullshit. There is no actual, like nobody knows how they actually work. How would three seashells wipe your ass?
Speaker 1:the three seashells from the movie Demolition man are fictional futuristic technology meant to replace toilet paper in a world where traditional forms of hygienic are banned. No explanation is given in the movie as how the three seashells function.
Speaker 2:I told you. But it is assumed they are an advanced hygiene device, bro, it's not logically possible that three seashells can wipe your ass. Alright, let's see what this says I'll decide where the toilet paper should be. Bro.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, after Demolition was released, the law revealed that a screenwriter on the film had explained to him how to use the three seashells that use the first and second like chopsticks to pull the feces out of your anus out of here, get out of here get out of here.
Speaker 2:This is a dope. Get out of here, bro, get out of here, bro.
Speaker 1:That's, that's the best explanation. Use the first and second, like in the future in the future.
Speaker 2:That's how they would come up with.
Speaker 1:He's the first person I get to put a lot of your ass in Bro come on, bro, come on, dude, come on, it's the future.
Speaker 2:It's the future, bro. They're advanced. You know, they would at least have like some Boday shit going on where, like, the water would spray your asshole or some shit like that and like that. They would not be having you, they would not be having you chopstick your fucking fecal or whatever. How does that even work? How do you wipe your ass with chopsticks?
Speaker 1:Let me see, I don't know. Here's a different explanation. The three seashells are actually buttons. The first washes away feces with a jet of water, the second dries your posterior with a blast of water, the second dries your posterior with a blast of air and the third gives you a dusting of talcum powder.
Speaker 2:Even Sly's dumbass would have figured out something like trying to touch him to try to activate him or whatever, or whatnot make something happen. You know, if it was Sly he would have figured it out. Yeah, I mean it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:You know, if it was Eskimo he would have figured it out. Yeah, it's pretty funny, just that they never explained it, but they talk about it.
Speaker 2:If I would have been in the movie. I would have been like at the end I would have been like, instead of being like he was playing in three seashells, I would have been like the Sandra Bullock character. After they made out, I would have been like, let's go back to your apartment and you can go show me how the three seat shawls work bent over. You know I'm saying so I can hit that shit and show and show you what what non-headset sex is like, maybe 93 style. I'm about to demolish that pussy they're calling me the demolition man.
Speaker 2:For real if you have the demolition man now, just wait, you ain't never had sex before, bro. I bet you sex in the 90s was rowdy Bro even with an extremely tiny penis, like you know, fucking her for the first time you could demolition, man, that shit. Yep, it's not a pure excitement.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think we talked about everything around the movie, which is okay, which is good. We kind of figured this was going to happen. We're prepared for this. We talked about how funny it is. We talked about the actors. We talked about Wesley Snipes. We talked about how funny it is, we talked about the actors. We talked about wesley snipes. We talked about actors that had nothing to do with this movie um, this is one time.
Speaker 2:Demolishing some shit's not gonna put me in trial what did?
Speaker 1:what did you think of the? Uh, what did you think of the movie overall? Like, honestly, like I know you said it was bad, I know you said it was bad, but like, I mean it's bad but it's funny, right like it's.
Speaker 2:You can put it on with friends in the background and watch it like while you're fucking like drinking and shit whatnot, it's funny, you know, like it's funny to have out of the background type shit and uh, the humor is good right, there is good chemistry between, like, uh, sand, sandra and Sly. They're good together. The first address they brought in the first two days of shooting, they fired her Because her and Sly did not have any on-screen chemistry at all. Who is this? I'll tell you her name, hold on. Then they brought in Sandra, and they brought in Sandra off of a tape she sent in. That's how she got the role. Hmm, okay, was literally off of a videotape, not from an agency or whatever. So it was.
Speaker 1:It was just something that she sent in because she was like I'm gonna try out for this movie they had to have, like the script. I mean, they had to have known about the script prior to it.
Speaker 2:It's about the future it's gonna have some lori petty, who I can't remember who that is was originally cast as huxley but was fired from two days of filming due to what producer Joel Silver called creative differences. Petty attributed it to personality differences, as she and Sloane did not get along and said Sly and I were like oil it and water. See, that's because she wouldn't let Sly tap that shit.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at her right now, man, she looks totally different, jesus.
Speaker 2:Silver was looking for a replacement and Lorenzo Lorenzo Di Bonaventura recommended Bullock, impressed by her audition tape, so she got that role off an audition tape she's like the Gary Busey of women okay oh, she was tank girl yeah, oh shit. No, she wasn't tank girl. Yeah, she was that was a different actress.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about Laurie Petty.
Speaker 2:Laurie Petty. Yeah, oh, thatty. Yeah, oh, that's who it was. Tank Girl. I forgot about that movie. That was a really good movie back in the day.
Speaker 1:She looks totally different. That's crazy. Oh, she was in this movie in A League of their Own.
Speaker 2:Oh, no shit, I gotta see a picture of her. A League of their Own oh, no shit, I gotta see a picture of her. A League of their Own is a really good movie. It was that came out in 92, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would have been really weird. I couldn't imagine her as playing that part, maybe somewhere in a parallel universe. She still played that part. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Maybe she could just play the three seashells.
Speaker 1:She looks like she's been fucking hit with three seashells.
Speaker 2:Nowadays, yeah, in her current state. Yeah, she does. Now I see her pictures. I know who she is from what she was in.
Speaker 1:She was in Free Willy's that year. Okay, Now I see her picture.
Speaker 2:I know who she is from what she was in. She was in Free Willy's that year too.
Speaker 1:Why does she look like a dyke now?
Speaker 2:Oh, she was Kit in League of Her Own. She was Kit, the younger sister.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know she was in. Orange is the New Black. Okay, that's why she looks like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, she played like a bull dyke in Orange and Black. I thought that was a stupid show.
Speaker 1:Uh, it wasn't a bad show, it was alright, it wasn't too bad.
Speaker 2:The first season or second season was okay, but she was a point break. That's a classic Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, now I have to. That was it for her man. Tank Girl was pretty much the peak of her shit.
Speaker 1:Laurie Petty movies. Yeah, she's not not anything poetic. Justice in the army. Now, I mean, the best movie is probably going to be in a League of their Own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was actually really big, a really big character in League of Her Own.
Speaker 1:League of Her Own Tank Girl. That's it.
Speaker 2:Okay, sandra Bullock, as you make your acting debut. With a minor role in the thriller Hangmen in 87, bullock received early attention for her supporting role in the action film Demolition man. So this movie did make her. This is what set her off. It did it was this film. Demolition man is what got her going, because her breakthrough was the action film Speed in 94, a year after, led to leading roles in the romantic comedy While you Were Sleeping and the drama she Was In A Time To Kill another really good movie and Hope Floats. And then she achieved further following success with the comedy Miss Congeniality, two Weeks. Notice, the Proposal was good, that was one of Ryan Reynolds. But yeah, this movie is what actually got her going. This is what really started her career. She had a big split there. She was in that Hangmen movie in 87, and then she wasn't in anything all the way to 93. So obviously it took her a while to latch on, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I see it Okay, so good for her If not for, if not for demolition man, she probably doesn't do speed that's, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right. You know, I think all those movies that came out in 93 I think demolition man again was this was a good action-packed movie. Usually action movies don't have Oscar nomination type vibes. Anyway, they never make it there. There's a very select few that ever really get there, but they usually have some more deeper story to it. When it comes to it, I can only think of one off the top of my head, and that's the Matrix.
Speaker 2:I just felt like the dynamic between Wesley and Slyly, although it worked it works and there's chemistry, it did not play out as like the main theme of the movie. Like you know, going into the end with the final fight and find the battle and all that whatnot I found myself like losing interest, you know it. Just there wasn't really a lot of um, uh, built up tension between the two of them, like you know, to where there was any reason to really be into or all that interested in that final, like you know them fighting you know what I mean like ending yeah, I mean, it was just the movie was like an ends to a means, where you know it was just getting there to the end.
Speaker 1:Um, um, yeah, I understand, I don't. I don't even know how to express like, like, um the story to it. Like, I mean, we just know that, you know, bad guy from the past is in the future, good guy from the past is in the future, using him to get to him, and then, um, you know pretty much it, uh, and then you know pretty much it Overall, do you think it's a movie worth watching? Or would you recommend somebody that wants to watch a movie? And if they ask you, hey, what do you think of Demolition man? What would you say?
Speaker 2:It depends on how old you are. If you're a younger kid, if you're like you know, if you're under the age of 30, you're probably not going to like this, probably not going to like the motion. No, I don't think so, that's just my take. But if you're above age 30, then you probably will find it at least entertaining, like J-Rez and I do. You'll find it entertaining and get it more and recognize some of the faces of it and whatnot. Um, I recommend watching it for free. It is free, right, for another 11 days. It's free. I I I recommend watching it for free when I pay for it. Like, um, you know, like, if I could go back in time to 93 and like I was, like you know, old enough to go to the theaters, I wouldn't pay to see this movie. The theater.
Speaker 1:OK, I like it.
Speaker 2:Let's, especially not nowadays not, not, not in our current economic movie conditions. You know I'm saying where it's 13, 14 dollars when we take it. No, I wouldn't pay 14 dollars to see this in the theater. You know what I'm saying where it's $13, $14 movie ticket. No, I wouldn't pay $14 to see this in the theater.
Speaker 1:You know, and now to give my take on it, I'm going to tell you and tell anybody this if you were, you know, raised watching RoboCop, judge Dredd, even hard to say Rocky, but like maybe even Batman, like the older ones with like a, like val kilmer, even even michael keaton, um uh, die hard. You know those type of those type of movies. I would say this kind of fits in that genre a little bit like even die hard has some, um, some comedic humor to it and some, you know, phrases like puns you know, like it just has, because it adds the future angle and the cryo angle.
Speaker 2:It's a different kind of film.
Speaker 1:It is a different kind of film. I would say it's worth watching at least once, to say you see it for a younger generation? Sure Cause, I can't connect to some of the younger generation, like early 20s, you know I, I don't know what, what they would think in this type of movie. You know I mean they would. I'll give you an example. Today I had a uh, a co-worker I can look back with that.
Speaker 2:I can connect with them through the thread baby yeah, so this is a true story.
Speaker 1:I have a co-worker of mine and I asked him if he's seen demolition man because I told him I was going to do a podcast about one. And we're talking. He was like demolition man, and I was like you've never seen it. And he goes no, I've never seen it. I was like, well, uh, it came out in 93. And he was like damn, 93. And I was like, well, what year were you born? He said 94 and I was like I was like, oh, okay, well, that explains a lot. It came out when you know, one year before you were born. So I, you know, um, I showed him some previews, not some, well, like some clips, not previews, but clips of like just the funny scenes and he thought they were pretty, pretty comical. He's, like I said, born in 94.
Speaker 1:What does that make him 20, 25, somewhere around there? I mean, if you're 25 years old, you might like I'm like watching it. Who knows? You know it's all about just kind of like at this point, for that movie is um, I'm bored. Maybe you want to watch a movie before you go to bed. You've seen a bunch of movies already. It's not gonna hurt you to watch a movie before you go to bed. You've seen a bunch of movies already. It's not going to hurt you to watch it. You might like it. You might fall asleep to it. Help you go to bed. Who knows? What are you smoking there? What do you got there?
Speaker 2:Oh you know, it's just a rolled tobacco cigarette.
Speaker 1:Tobacco wrap.
Speaker 2:Try to save money, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, light it up. Okay, I think we did a good job, Jeff, of talking about Demolition man and everything around it, and 93 was a good year for movies again.
Speaker 2:I'll give Demolition man out of five. Again, I'll give demolition man Uh, uh. Out of five. Out of five stars, I'll give it a. Out of five Stallone's. Out of five seashells, I'll give it a. Uh, I'll give it a 2.75. Woo, that's nice and low you know which is not bad, Honestly, out of five, 2.75.
Speaker 1:bad, honestly, out of five 2.75 that's not failing. That that's passing, that's not failing, that's mediocre that's like slightly above.
Speaker 2:No, not, not, not enough, not in a one through five scale. 2.75, that's um, 2.5 is halfway up, 2.5 is half right. Yeah, 2.5 is half. So, um, at that point I'd say 2.75 is like a 6 out of 10 or a 5.5 out of 10. So that means it's not terrible, it's just not great.
Speaker 1:Okay, Well, I value your opinion on that. I'll have to go a little bit more closer to the movies I like and I think maybe I am being biased here and I'm okay with that. I personally it's a personal favorite of mine. I would say it's at least four Stallones. I'd give it four out of five Stallones on a chart. I think it's worth watching at least once. It'll give you a couple good chart. I think it's worth watching at least once. It'll give you a couple of good chuckles. I think you never have to watch it again, Just one time. It's all you gotta do is watch it one time and you don't even have to pay for it to watch it. So you know, try it out and see what you think. Jeff, any closing statements? I think it's about about time we wrapped it up.
Speaker 2:We had a good show where we've been about an hour and 23 minutes yeah, that sounds like a good time it's about time to wrap it up thanks for having me on shout out to everybody in the comment session yeah, yeah, a little light, but it's because I've been in a hiatus, jeff for like almost two months been like two two months.
Speaker 1:So, you know, we kind of got to get the ball rolling again, kind of got I got to get that momentum back up, which, uh, hopefully you know we can do. But, uh, I really like the way we um handled this show and I hope that we can. The next one that we pick uh will just flow as equal, equally as this one did. So, anyways, guys, this is jeff from jeff true knowledge, from mcu's bleeding edge. You can find him everywhere on google, actually. So, uh, all you gotta do is just put mcu's bleeding edge or just put jeff's laboda or true knowledge. Any one of those in the in the google search will get you that.
Speaker 2:I think we got, we've, we've, we've, we've gotten successful enough and big enough to where, if you just put in the MC's winning edge on, pretty much everything will come up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. You can also find J rent 2000 podcast odyssey on Google. You can find me on Apple. You can find me on Spotify as well. Got a few of you fans that will actually download on the Apple and Spotify. I see it. So appreciate you guys out there. I'll be adding this one and posting and letting people know. Until then, everybody have a good night, jeff, hang out, don't leave Everybody else, we'll see you later. See you in the next one, folks. Thank you.